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Ion

Plato

Book Overview: 

In Plato’s Ion, Socrates questions Ion on whether he should really claim laud and glory for his ‘rhapsodic’ recitals of Homer’s poetry.

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Book Excerpt: 
. . .nds of many who in the way of reason would be incapable of understanding them. Reflections of this kind may have been passing before Plato's mind when he describes the poet as inspired, or when, as in the Apology, he speaks of poets as the worst critics of their own writings—anybody taken at random from the crowd is a better interpreter of them than they are of themselves. They are sacred persons, 'winged and holy things' who have a touch of madness in their composition (Phaedr.), and should be treated with every sort of respect (Republic), but not allowed to live in a well-ordered state. Like the Statesmen in the Meno, they have a divine instinct, but they are narrow and confused; they do not attain to the clearness of ideas, or to the knowledge of poetry or of any other art as a whole.

In the Protagoras the ancient poets are recognized by Protagoras himself as the original sophists; and this family resemblance may be traced in the Ion. The rhapsode belo. . . Read More

Community Reviews

Jedan od najkraćih, a rekao bih i jedan od boljih dijaloga, bar kada je u pitanju "rani Platon". Nisam nikako mjerodavan u ocjenjivanju, ali neka bude 3.5.

Dvije su teme, odnosno vještine o kojima Sokrat i Ijon vode raspravu: jedna je rapsodska, druga je pjesnička (kojoj će se Platon naknadno vraćati

Of what use are poets?
13 September 2019

So, this is one of Plato’s earlier dialogues and records a conversation that Socrates has with a rhapsody. Now, when we are talking about rhapsodies, we aren’t talking about one from Bohemia, but rather a class of poets in Ancient Greece who pretty much only ev

Uhhh. Imam mnogo problema sa ovim delom. Prvo i osnovno moram da kažem da se po pitanju pesništva sa Platonom nikada nisam slagala. Njegovo "pesnici su samo nadahnuti od strane bogova" se sasvim sigurno dokazalo kao netačno, ali je i za to vreme, po meni, skroz nepravedno.

Odlično je prikazao Sokrata

Jer pjesnici nam zaista kažu da oni s medonosnih izvora iz nekih Muzinih vrtova i dolova usisavaju svoje pjesme, te ih nama donose kao pčele, leteći kao i one same.

Ijon predstavlja dijalog Sokrata i Ijona koji raspravljaju o nadmoćnosti Homera nad ostalim pjesnicima, i uopšteno o pjesništvu. Njih dv

I loved this dialogue because it centers on a question that preoccupies me often ‘where does the inspiration/passion of the artist come from?’ Incredibly short compared to other dialogues. Ion reminds me of so many people I know.

This lovely little dialogue, one of Plato’s shortest works, involves Socrates and the rhapsode, Ion. Ion is a rhapsode, which means that he recites, embellishes, and interprets poetry. In Ion’s case he is specialized in Homer, and admits that he knows nothing about any other poet. Socrates pounces u

The first half of this dialogue is good,
Dealing as it does with inspiration,

Magnetic power beyond the conscious ‘should’.
But then it makes erroneous equations,

Equating conscious knowledge with the pearl
Of true rhapsodic passion in a whirl.

Directed inspiration is a thing;
A mean, between blind gropin

Nel febbraio 2002 - eh, sembra sempre ieri! - leggevo Jone, ovvero Del furore poetico, caposaldo e antichissimo reperto della teoria della letteratura, nella "classica" traduzione di Francesco Acri.
Mi interessava, in quel momento, soprattutto per cercare di capire qualcosa dei fondamenti del mondo

Ion is a very short Platonic dialogue between Socrates and a rhapsode by the name of Ion who specializes in reciting the poetry of Homer. The dialogue explores the nature of poetic and artistic inspiration in a most playful way. If you are interested in literature and the arts, you will really enjoy

[A concourse in Athens. ION, SOCRATES, a PASSER-BY]

ION : Hi Socrates.

SOCRATES : What, you again? After the comprehensive verbal trouncing you received yesterday?

ION: Yeah, well, like I’ve thought about it some more. Wanna try a re-run?

SOCRATES: If that is what you wish. Where shall we start?

ION: Oka

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