This week, as part of our focus on biodiversity during COP 16, we're excited to share a special crossover episode! In the first part of this exciting episode, join Christiana, Tom, and Ben Goldsmith for an insightful conversation about rewilding and its global impact, followed by a full episode of Ben's inspiring podcast Rewilding The World featuring UK national treasure, writer and actor, Stephen Fry.

In his conversation with the hosts, Ben explores the concept of rewilding, its potential to reshape ecosystems worldwide, and the critical role grassroots community projects play in this movement.

Ben Goldsmith is a pioneer in green investment and a driving force behind the rewilding movement in Britain and across Europe. Don't miss this thought-provoking discussion on the future of biodiversity and rewilding!

NOTES AND RESOURCES

GUEST

Ben Goldsmith, co-founder and board member of Nattergal and host of Rewilding the World podcast

Website | Nattergal | Rewilding the World podcast

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This week, our hosts dive into The Rio Trio! No, this is not the name of a new cocktail but three COPs (Biodiversity in Colombia, Climate in Azerbaijan and Desertification in Saudi Arabia) which are about to happen back-to-back. Plus the plastics treaty negotiations in South Korea.

Join our hosts for their take on the history of these three different but interrelated COPs, all conceived in the Earth Summit in Rio in 1992. How have they evolved, and how might they continue to evolve to be fit for purpose in a changed world? Since this subject is complex, Christiana uses her get-out clause and phones a special friend for much-needed clarity.

Christiana also asks the question: If we had a blank slate now, would it make more sense to kick start a process based on all nine planetary boundaries? Would this help us focus holistically on the interconnected challenges we face? Sit back and listen as the hosts try to make sense of this negotiating super season for the planet and all its peoples.

Please keep tuned for special and in-depth coverage from the Outrage + Optimism team to guide you through each of these key moments. 

NOTES AND RESOURCES

How COPs are organised - Questions and answers 

From Cancun to Durban: Implications for Climate and Multilateral Diplomacy by HE Patricia Espinosa

COP16 host Colombia pushes for unified UN climate and nature pledges

COP Presidencies Launch ‘Rio Trio’ 

Biodiversity COP

Climate COP

Desertification COP

GUEST

Richard Kinley, President, Foundation for Global Governance and Sustainability and former senior official at the UN Climate Change Secretariat (UNFCCC) from 1993 to 2017. He served as Deputy Executive Secretary from 2006 to 2017 and was intimately involved in the development of UNFCCC as an organization from its establishment and in its management and operations.

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In the final episode of our How to Live a Good Life series, Tom, Paul and Christiana discuss the personal quandary of whether or not to have children in the midst of what appears to be significant climate breakdown.

The questions they ponder are complex and philosophical: should we bring children into a world that is, some might say, collapsing? Would you consider having children is immoral, since more people living on the planet leads to greater consumption and emissions, thus exacerbating the problem? Or is having a child the greatest act of hope for the future that anyone can choose to make?

The hosts approach this issue from different perspectives, opening up about their personal lives and addressing questions and comments sent in by listeners. We hope to offer you some clarity on this topic, or at least some comfort that even the greatest minds in the climate space sometimes have to take leaps of faith.

This is the final episode in the series. We really hope you have enjoyed these episodes. As always, we would love to hear from you so please get in touch.

NOTES AND RESOURCES

• Your Kids are Not Doomed by Ezra Klein, NY Times, June 2022

• Four in 10 young people fear having children due to climate crisis The Guardian, September 2021 

• ‘I am starting to panic about my child’s future’: climate scientists wary of starting families, The Guardian, May 2024

• Masters of War - Bob Dylan

• Resources and Consumption: Data from Population Matters

• The Whirligig by Paul Fleishman

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Newsflash: In this urgent episode recorded on Friday, October 11th, Tom, Paul, and Christiana come together to discuss the devastation caused by Hurricanes Helene and Milton. The hosts express their frustration with the conspiracy theories circulating in the wake of the latest hurricane Milton - at a time when solidarity is needed most. They also dive into the harsh reality that the fossil fuel industry lies at the heart of the destruction.

In This Episode:

• The hosts break down the undeniable science linking man-made global warming to the increasing intensity of hurricanes around the world.

• As private insurers withdraw from Florida, leaving homeowners and businesses without coverage, the hosts examine the crisis' wide-reaching effects, particularly on the most vulnerable populations.

• A deep dive into the dangerous disinformation spread by key Republican figures, tracing the real cause of man-made extreme weather back to the fossil fuel industry.

• The episode closes with sincere condolences for those across the globe who have lost lives and livelihoods due to extreme weather events.

Join us for an insightful conversation on climate accountability, disinformation, and the forces fueling these devastating changes to our environment.

NOTES AND RESOURCES

Weather Catastrophes and Climate Change: Is There Still Hope for Us?

The People of the State of California vs. Big Oil


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