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Treatises on Friendship and Old Age

Marcus Tullius Cicero

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Friendship. Old Age. Marcus Tullius Cicero was a Roman statesman, orator, lawyer, and philosopher. He is considered one of Rome’s greatest orators and prose stylists. One commentator has written, “The influence of Cicero upon the history of European literature and ideas greatly exceeds that of any other prose writer in any language.

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. . .Fannius. Ah! it was naturally easy for the justest of men to stand up for justice.

Scaevola. Well, then, what about friendship? Who could discourse on it more easily than the man whose chief glory is a friendship maintained with the most absolute fidelity, constancy, and integrity?

8. Laclius. Now you are really using force. It makes no difference what kind of force you use: force it is. For it is neither easy nor right to refuse a wish of my sons-in-law, particularly when the wish is a creditable one in itself.

Well, then, it has very often occurred to me when thinking about friendship, that the chief point to be considered was this: is it weakness and want of means that make friendship desired? I mean, is its object an interchange of good offices, so that each may give that in which he is strong, and receive that in which he is weak? Or is it not rather true that, although this is an advantage naturally belonging to friendship, yet its . . . Read More

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It’s about time that I read some Cicero. In the history of writing, it is difficult to overstate Cicero’s influence. To quote the most authoritative source I know, Wikipedia: “His influence on the Latin language was so immense that that the subsequent history of prose in not only Latin but European

Leer autores clásicos supone per se un deleite, con Cicerón no lo es menos.
Su fuerza en el discurso unido al formato dialogado tan platónico hacen que la lectura sea fluida. Si bien los escritos del mejor orador de roma pierden fuerza si no son en la lengua en la que fueron concebidos.
Los temas tra

سیسرون فیلسوفی بوده که قبل میلاد مسیح زندگی میکرده. جنگ رفته، توی سنا بوده، مشرق‌زمین رو دیده، ازدواج ناموفق داشته، غم مرگ اولاد رو تجربه کرده و آخر سر هم به خاطر خطابه‌هاش تبعید و اعدام شده.
توی این مقاله، سیسرون از پیری و مرگ میگه. صحبتاش شاید به نظر قدیمی بیاد ولی فلسفه رو هروقت بخونی، تازه‌ست(:
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No es esta una reseña al uso, pero no por ello deja de ser una reseña. Lo mismo que no es Cicerón el que habla en esta obra, pero no por ello dejan de ser sus palabras.

Cicerón acaba el segundo de los dos pequeños tratados que componen este libro aludiendo de alguna manera al primero. En la primera

I love Cicero; he’s one of the heroes of Roman history, but I’m not sure these essays have aged particularly well. Supposedly they are written with extreme elegance and style in their original Latin, but none of that came through in the translation I read. These pieces read like sermons. Uplifting,

Severek okunası, yaşlılık ve ölüm korkusu olanlara okumada ısrar edilesi kitap.

Cicero, Cato'nun ağzından yaşlılığa dair düşüncelerini anlatıyor. Çeviri leziz...more

Read "Old Age" for its polished excellence. Read "Friendship" as superior marriage counseling.

Cicero ölmeden önce yazdığı son eserinde kendisinin de içinde bulunduğu yaşlılık evresi ile ilgili bir çok büyük düşünür, yönetici, komutan vs den alıntılar yaparak yanlışları, doğruları irdeliyor. En genel ifade ile konuyu Gorgias'ın ağzından
Leontinili Gorgias da yüz yedi yaşına kadar yaşamış,

Cicero’nun ölmeden önce yazdığı son eserlerinden biri olan "Yaşlı Cato veya Yaşlılık Üzerine / On Old Age", yaşlılığın neden bir son olmadığını, hatta tam tersine gençliğe göre ne kadar farklı avantajları olduğunu Platon tarzı dialoglarla okuyucuya sunduğu güzel bir felsefe eseri. Akıcı dili ve kısa

از این دو رساله که به طور خلاصه و به صورت آزاد ترجمه شده اند، عیش پیری را می پسندم اما راز دوستی را نه چندان. البته پسندیدن صرفا به عنوان نوعی اندرز و حکمت نه همچون نوشتار دقیق فلسفی - که البته خود سیسرو ( یا کیکِرو ) هم چنین ادعایی ندارد.

رساله ی دوم یعنی راز دوستی بر دوستی مبتنی بر تقوا و فضیلت تأک

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