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. . . Lysimachus, son of Aristides. Melesias, son of Thucydides. Their sons. Nicias, Laches, Socrates.



LYSIMACHUS: You have seen the exhibition of the man fighting in armour, Nicias and Laches, but we did not tell you at the time the reason why my friend Melesias and I asked you to go with us and see him. I think that we may as well confess what this was, for we certainly ought not to have any reserve with you. The reason was, that we were intending to ask your advice. Some laugh at the very notion of advising others, and when they are asked will not say what they think. They guess at the wishes of the person who asks them, and answer according to his, and not according to their own, opinion. But as we know that you are good judges, and will say exactly what you think, we have taken you into our counsels. The matter a. . . Read More

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Earlier this year, we picked up a handsome 1930 edition of Jowett's complete Plato, and I recently started reading through it. I was deeply unimpressed with the first two dialogues, Charmides and Lysis; I'm afraid my frivolous reviews reflect my disappointment. But the third one delivers. Plato, eit

honestly, this is an ancient greek edition of mean girls

En sammanfattning av gränserna för innovationsförmåga och mod i ljuset av maskulinitet som fenomen. Inte läsvärd.

STUDIATE il saggio introduttivo prima di leggere questo dialogo. Così è possibile coglierne l'immensità!

Initially, I felt slightly guilty adding this short book to my 2019 ‘books read’ list, but I re-read this book and various passages many times. It’s worth noting, I needed to refer to the similarly brief Sparknotes booklet to help me understand the thing. In the end, I spent more time on this effort

A Question of Bravery
18 November 2019 – Echuca

Well, in this dialogue we have Socrates discussing with some military types what the exact meaning of bravery is (and one of these military people happens to be the General Nicias, of the Sicilian Disaster Expedition fame). Well, I would have probably r

God this made no fucking sense.

Here is another of the inconclusive dialogues. Socrates is asked by a couple of older men, Lysimachus and Melesias, whether to educate their sons in the art of fighting in armor. Socrates characteristically shifts the theme to a more abstract inquiry: What is courage? Commonsense definitions—such as

I love how Socrates picks common concepts that basically everyone thinks they know, and makes them realize they know nothing about it.
it is specially frustrating and embarassing for the other characters in the dialogue, Nycias and Laches, since they're army generals.

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